Read an interesting blog this morning from the Minneapolis StarTribune site - a tip of the hat to Gregg Drinnan's blog for pointing me to it. If you're interested in the CHL vs NCAA recruiting battle, I highly encourage you to read North Dakota head coach Dave Hakstol's comments for yourself.
Basically Hakstol is unhappy about having lost two prized UND recruits to the CHL in the last six months - forward J.T. Miller to the OHL last summer and then Stefan Matteau to the QMJHL two weeks ago. So unhappy, that Hakstol actually suggested that the NCAA may need to change its rules to allow ex-CHL players to play NCAA hockey.
This position probably amounts to treason among the "CHL is pro hockey" faction of the NCAA fanbase, who like to cling to the cute notion that their exchanging tens of thousands of dollars in free education in exchange for a young hockey player's services is somehow morally superior and less "professional" than the CHL clubs who offer monthly stipends of a few hundred dollars (plus an equivalent, optional, scholarship package) for the same services.
But, it is refreshing to see at least one person in a prominent position inside NCAA hockey and its member clubs sees the possible bigger picture here which offers benefits to everyone - ESPECIALLY the players themselves, who are what everyone should be mainly concerned about.
I've been over this many times before, but if the NCAA could only see its way clear to dropping this ridiculous "professional" designation it attaches to players who play even one game in the CHL (or even those who just sign an education contract but never play in the league!), everyone would win.
The CHL leagues would win because ALL of the best players would then head to the CHL. Many of them would stay, strengthening the CHL's product.
The NCAA would win because there will be players who sample the CHL's offerings for a year or two or three and decide it's not for them. Or maybe they decide that the NHL dream isn't going to work out for them and a four year degree from an NCAA school sounds pretty good instead. (Of course, the CHL scholarship program offers them four or five years of paid schooling after their CHL days are over too, but maybe they don't want to wait 'til they're 20 or 21 to get started on that. Who knows?). So the NCAA would get these players - some/many of whom they would have gotten ANYWAY - only they will be better players for having spent a year or two playing at the higher level of the CHL instead of in Junior A.
Yes, the NCAA will almost certainly lose most of the biggest and brightest stars that it currently attracts. Those players will play in the CHL, become high NHL draft picks, sign NHL contracts and never play in the NCAA. So I can see why this path has some obvious unappealing features for NCAA schools and their fans. The tradeoff for landing few of those "five star" players though is access to a much larger group of four star and three star players that they currently do not have.
I firmly believe that if they would just permit kids to play major junior up to the point where they graduate from high school (since they're not even able to attend university until then anyway) and THEN have the player make his choice which way to go, that everyone benefits. No more pressuring from all sides of 15, 16 year old kids to make these life-altering decisions.
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Alan, let me be the first to say it. Great post!
CE
Alan, let me be the first to say it. Great post!
CE
I have to say, being the parent of a son who has gone the NCAA route, something like this would DEFINITELY take the pressure off the kids at the 15,16, and even 17 year old age. My son was faced with that decision and it was a very difficult thing for him. Of course, he wanted to play at the highest level possible, but to take that chance, then possibly fail and have it ruin his chances for the NCAA was too great. He went to Jr A, played out his years of eligibility there, and is now a freshman in the NCAA...and loving it by the way. However, if he could have been able to take that leap of faith 4-5 years ago and played in the WHL, then any kind of possible shortcomings wouldn't have mattered. If he only lasted a season or even just a few games, oh well...he could always go the other route. I suspect that he would have had a pretty good WHL career...probably not star status, but he would have benefited from the training and level of play. Unfortunately,he had to, at a pretty young age, make an adult decision on the pros and cons of each direction. Yes, as parents we gave him guidance, but the final decision was his.
allan why are sjhl kids allowed to go ncaa when they get paid the same little bit of money every two weeks
Agree - great post Allan. The other issue that always has ticked me off is that the Jr A ranks, specifically the AJHL, have paid significant amounts (up to 5 figures) to 20 year olds to play in their leagues. The NCAA has no issue with that, but an 18 year old WHLer who gets $160 a month is deemed a "professional". I would consider CHL kids as amateurs and eligible for NCAA play until they sign a professional contract. Too many bureaucrats for that to happen anytime soon though. A NCAA coach can't even buy a pizza for a hungry student athlete, so don't expect quick resolution here.
Couldn't agree more about using high school graduation as the determination line Alan, it's what we've been proposing on our show for at least 5 years now.
to Anonymous #3... the SJHL players (like the BCHL and AJHL) retain their NCAA rights and it has nothing to do with weekly stipends players get. That is NOT why the NCAA sees the CHL as a pro league.
The CHL is a "pro league" because there are some players who have already signed NHL contracts still playing there.
Jordan Eberle his last year with the Pats was considered "a pro" because he had been signed by the Edmonton Oilers and sent back to the WHL.
There are no players in the SJHL, BCHL, AJHL or USHL in that same situation. (or it's an extreme rarity).
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And so is there not one single player in the entire NCAA who has a contract with a pro team?
They claim to be a developemental league like the CHL, but as soon as you sign somewhere are you kicked out of the schools?
No, no NCAA players have signed with the NHL team that holds their rights. That would end their college eligibility immediately and they would move to the AHL.
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