Tuesday, December 8, 2009

Stats stuff

Today's stats post is brought to you by the letters P, I, and M. As in, Penalties In Minutes. A look at all things penalty-related around the league today...

First, does taking a lot of penalties make you a bad team? The common sense answer might seem to be that yes, lots of PIM is bad because it usually leads to opposing powerplays, which leads to goals against. But the stats don't bear that out:

TeamWin % PIM/G
Saskatoon Blades0.750 21.07 (3)
Calgary Hitmen0.734 18.69 (11)
Tri-City Americans0.724 14.97 (22)
Spokane Chiefs0.679 15.64 (19)
Brandon Wheat Kings0.636 16.24 (17)
Vancouver Giants0.621 19.94 (6)
Portland Winterhawks0.609 18.34 (12)
Medicine Hat Tigers0.606 19.42 (9)
Everett Silvertips0.589 17.61 (15)
Moose Jaw Warriors0.567 15.8 (18)
Prince Albert Raiders0.544 17.76 (14)
Swift Current Broncos0.531 16.28 (16)
Regina Pats0.530 18 (13)
Red Deer Rebels0.517 19.9 (7)
Kootenay Ice0.516 21.16 (2)
Kelowna Rockets0.500 18.74 (10)
Chilliwack Bruins0.470 20.3 (5)
Kamloops Blazers0.469 22.56 (1)
Seattle Thunderbirds0.406 15.09 (21)
Edmonton Oil Kings0.375 15.31 (20)
Lethbridge Hurricanes0.367 19.5 (8)
Prince George Cougars0.207 20.83 (4)

You can see that the top three teams in the league by winning percentage are actually from three different PIM extremes - heavily penalized, average, and lightly penalized. And the worst teams in the league are also a mix of heavily and lightly penalized teams. So it doesn't seem to make much difference.

How about by actual powerplays given up, not just PIMs taken? After all, some of those PIMs are going to be coincidental ones which don't hurt a team on the ice:


TeamWin %PP/G
Saskatoon Blades0.754.93 (10)
Calgary Hitmen0.7345.03 (9)
Tri-City Americans0.7244.69 (15)
Spokane Chiefs0.6794.86 (11)
Brandon Wheat Kings0.6364.06 (22)
Vancouver Giants0.6215.52 (4)
Portland Winterhawks0.6095.28 (7)
Medicine Hat Tigers0.6064.52 (19)
Everett Silvertips0.5895.32 (6)
Moose Jaw Warriors0.5674.23 (21)
Prince Albert Raiders0.5444.56 (18)
Swift Current Broncos0.5314.75 (14)
Regina Pats0.535.61 (3)
Red Deer Rebels0.5174.48 (20)
Kootenay Ice0.5164.58 (17)
Kelowna Rockets0.54.84 (12)
Chilliwack Bruins0.475.64 (2)
Kamloops Blazers0.4696.03 (1)
Seattle Thunderbirds0.4064.84 (12)
Edmonton Oil Kings0.3754.63 (16)
Lethbridge Hurricanes0.3675.43 (5)
Prince George Cougars0.2075.17 (8)

Again, not necessarily any relation....we do see a trend where the teams which allow the most PPs per game are drifting towards the bottom of the standings here (as we might expect), but there are still a number of average-to-heavily shorthanded teams near the top. We may be able to conclude that the strength of a team's penalty killing players is a factor here - better PKers means you can give up more PPs without getting seriously hurt - but I don't know of any way to measure the strength of a team's penalty killers, so we'll leave it at that.

How about intimidation? Does it actually work in giving teams an edge?

This is hard to exactly measure but I'll take the number of PIMs that each team has earned through fighting majors and roughing minors (the two most logical results of intimidation attempts) and break that down:

Team Win %Rough PIMFight PIM"Intimidation" PIM/G
Kootenay Ice 0.516 (15) 66 280 11.16
Saskatoon Blades 0.75 (1) 86 235 10.7
Prince George Cougars 0.207 (22) 106 190 10.21
Kamloops Blazers 0.469 (18) 152 170 10.06
Red Deer Rebels 0.517 (14) 78 210 9.93
Medicine Hat Tigers 0.606 (8) 128 190 9.64
Chilliwack Bruins 0.47 (17) 112 185 9
Vancouver Giants 0.621 (6) 106 185 8.82
Lethbridge Hurricanes 0.367 (21) 82 170 8.4
Kelowna Rockets 0.5 (16) 84 170 8.19
Calgary Hitmen 0.734 (2) 66 195 8.16
Brandon Wheat Kings 0.636 (5) 72 190 7.94
Prince Albert Raiders 0.544 (11) 90 170 7.65
Portland Winterhawks 0.609 (7) 124 115 7.47
Everett Silvertips 0.589 (9) 60 135 6.96
Regina Pats 0.53 (13) 94 135 6.94
Moose Jaw Warriors 0.567 (10) 68 140 6.93
Swift Current Broncos 0.531 (12) 70 135 6.41
Edmonton Oil Kings 0.375 (20) 62 120 5.69
Seattle Thunderbirds 0.406 (19) 84 95 5.59
Spokane Chiefs 0.679 (4) 70 85 5.54
Tri-City Americans 0.724 (3) 44 100 4.97

Well, of the five teams with the most "intimidation" penalty minutes, four of them rank no better than 14th overall in the league. But the fifth team in that group is also the #1 overall team in the league. Go figure.

Meanwhile, the four teams least-penalized for "intimidation" include two of the league's worst teams and also two of its best. So does intimidation work? I think it's inconclusive.....it may work for some teams and not for others.

Some individual player stats now....

Fighting major leaders:

Player# Fights
Randy McNaught 13
Darian Dziurzynski 12
Curt Gogol 10
Ian Schultz 10
Tayler Jordan 9
Ryley Miller 9
Josh Cowen 8
Mitchell Callahan 7
Kale Kessy 7
Matthew Konan 7
Brett Lyon 7
Cason Machacek 7
Dylan McIlrath 7
Brock Montgomery 7
David Robinson 7
Tanner Sohn 7
Teigan Zahn 7

And now the powerplay machines.....players who take the most penalties which result in powerplays for their opponent:


PlayerPPs
Brett Leffler 23
Brett Breitkreuz 22
Mitchell Chapman 22
Zak Stebner 22
Kyle Beach 21
Rasmus Rissanen 21
Art Bidlevskii 20
Lance Bouma 20
Radko Gudas 20
Brandon Manning 20
Geordie Wudrick 20
Ryan Funk 19
Brennan Yadlowski 19
Colin Jacobs 18
Mitch McColm 18
Brad Ross 18
Jordan Rowley 18
Troy Rutkowski 18
Kevin Sundher 18
Travis Toomey 18
Matt Delahey 17
Brendan Gallagher 17
Wacey Hamilton 17
Nino Niederreiter 17
Brent Raedeke 17
Alexander Urbom 17
Adrian Van de Mosselaer 17
Derek Claffey 16
Ryan Harrison 16
Sam Klassen 16
Shayne Neigum 16
Giffen Nyren 16
Brett Plouffe 16
Mike Reddington 16
Colten Teubert 16

Are these players hurting their teams? Not necessarily, since some penalties are "good" penalties - penalties which prevent scoring chances, etc. But definitely some of these guys are hurting their teams with all these opposition PP's they are causing.

And how about how many of those PPs actually result in goals?

PlayerPPsGoals
Art Bidlevskii209
Brett Lyon157
Stefan Warg157
Nino Niederreiter177
Brett Breitkreuz227
Zak Stebner227
Cam Braes126
Marek Viedensky126
Colin Jacobs186
Rasmus Rissanen216
Mitchell Chapman226
Alex Petrovic65
Dylan McIlrath145
Brayden McNabb145
Brayden Schenn145
Shayne Wiebe145
Derek Claffey165
Ryan Harrison165
Sam Klassen165
Brent Raedeke175
Brad Ross185
Jordan Rowley185
Troy Rutkowski185
Brennan Yadlowski195
Radko Gudas205
Brandon Manning205
Geordie Wudrick205

And again by percentage of PP's which result in goals:


PlayerPPs Goals%
Alex Petrovic6583.3%
Matej Bene6466.7%
Kyle Mulder6466.7%
Jesse Craige5360%
Matt Fraser5360%
Byron Froese5360%
Emerson Hrynyk5360%
Michael Ferland7457.1%
Cam Braes12650%
Marek Viedensky12650%
Carter Bancks8450%
Mackenzie Royer8450%
Matt Strueby8450%
Greg Fraser6350%
Todd Kennedy6350%
Matt MacKay6350%
Brett Lyon15746.7%
Stefan Warg15746.7%
Art Bidlevskii20945%
Spencer Bennett9444.4%
Joey Leach9444.4%
Brock Sutherland9444.4%
Brendon Wall9444.4%
Adam Lowry7342.9%
Daniel Medland-Marchen7342.9%
Brodie Melnychuk7342.9%
Eric Mestery7342.9%
Harrison Ruopp7342.9%
Garrett Thiessen7342.9%
Nino Niederreiter17741.2%

Alex Petrovic has taken six penalties which resulted in opposing powerplays. They scored while he was in the box five times. One positive way you could look at that though is to conclude that he could be a key penalty killer for them and their PK unit misses him when he's in the box.

That's it for today.....enjoy.

1 comment:

TGT said...

I would think instigating would also be an intimidation penalty.

Do you have any instigating stats? Who takes the most? Who draws the most? Results of the ensuing PP?

Nice work you do here!